Comments on: Mass Effect, Spore DRM Are a Step In the Right Direction http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/ Aeropause is a video game blog that explores game culture, trends, technologies and innovations. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:00:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: John http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24537 John Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:37:27 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24537 I just bought a copy for my nephew. I get it home, open it, install it, click register and it says it failed to validate the registration. Rang the store, they won't accept it as a return now, because it's been opened. Here's the irony. When I was complaining about this to a friend, he said he had a pirated copy. The point? He's copy, and my copy, are now effectively the same. Neither of us can access the online material, the only difference is I paid $79 for the privilege to not be able to connect, whereas he just downloaded that right. The EASIEST way to combat piracy is to make people WANT to purchase your product. I wanted to buy it to play with the online material. Now I feel like a used whore. I just bought a copy for my nephew. I get it home, open it, install it, click register and it says it failed to validate the registration.

Rang the store, they won’t accept it as a return now, because it’s been opened.

Here’s the irony. When I was complaining about this to a friend, he said he had a pirated copy. The point? He’s copy, and my copy, are now effectively the same. Neither of us can access the online material, the only difference is I paid $79 for the privilege to not be able to connect, whereas he just downloaded that right.

The EASIEST way to combat piracy is to make people WANT to purchase your product. I wanted to buy it to play with the online material. Now I feel like a used whore.

]]> By: namby pants http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24475 namby pants Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:44:48 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24475 fuck you man. fuck you. fuck you man. fuck you.

]]> By: EAHOORAY http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24474 EAHOORAY Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:08:51 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24474 EA, challenge everything. Especially patience. EA, challenge everything. Especially patience.

]]> By: JBBW http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24473 JBBW Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:42:14 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24473 A step in the right direction? Maybe but those steps are still in the "I am not buying this game" zone. I don't pirate games; I don't share them with friends; I don't resell them; I do upgrade my PC every few months and sometimes have to reinstall the OS. Why, WHY - am I being punished? This is rediculous. Count me in as one of those people who won't buy Spore until this gets 'unscrewed' up. A step in the right direction? Maybe but those steps are still in the “I am not buying this game” zone.

I don’t pirate games; I don’t share them with friends; I don’t resell them; I do upgrade my PC every few months and sometimes have to reinstall the OS. Why, WHY – am I being punished?

This is rediculous. Count me in as one of those people who won’t buy Spore until this gets ‘unscrewed’ up.

]]> By: Scott http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24467 Scott Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:39:23 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24467 This DRM is about preventing second hand game sales not copy protection. The game was cracked before it hit the shelves... Apparently Sacred 2 is using the same DRM and specifically stating that the license is not transferrable. This DRM is about preventing second hand game sales not copy protection. The game was cracked before it hit the shelves…

Apparently Sacred 2 is using the same DRM and specifically stating that the license is not transferrable.

]]> By: Joe Haygood http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24465 Joe Haygood Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:46:38 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24465 Just a clarification to those that think I advocate the DRM that is on the current Spore disc, and I do not. The DRM policy above is totally different that the one that is on the current disc. The current DRM is the exact same that was in Bioshock, and as I mentioned in the story,not a good idea. I would also say that I wish I was a shill for the industry, because at least that pays well, but unfortunately, I am not. I have criticized EA on more occasions that I have praised them. The DRM vis Internet was a similar system as Steam, although not as refined. I never advocated it as perfect, but I did feel it was a try at something new, and I was willing to give it a shot. At Bruce, sorry about the issues, but I counted four installs there, not three. Also, my understanding, or at least what I experienced with Bioshock, is that you have to run the uninstall routine to release the license. At least that is the way it was explained at a 2K Games briefing. I cannot say that I had the issue, because I never uninstalled Bioshock after it was installed. Also, I would never recommend buying a game from EA's download service due to the fact that in the past they have only allowed you to redownload the game for up to six months. YOu have to buy extended download service, which then allows you to download the game up to two years after purchase. Can't say that I support that, because after two years, I have no game, and would have to repurchase it. This was the policy at the time of the Crysis, release, which made me go and buy it in the store. Just a clarification to those that think I advocate the DRM that is on the current Spore disc, and I do not. The DRM policy above is totally different that the one that is on the current disc. The current DRM is the exact same that was in Bioshock, and as I mentioned in the story,not a good idea.

I would also say that I wish I was a shill for the industry, because at least that pays well, but unfortunately, I am not. I have criticized EA on more occasions that I have praised them. The DRM vis Internet was a similar system as Steam, although not as refined. I never advocated it as perfect, but I did feel it was a try at something new, and I was willing to give it a shot.

At Bruce, sorry about the issues, but I counted four installs there, not three. Also, my understanding, or at least what I experienced with Bioshock, is that you have to run the uninstall routine to release the license. At least that is the way it was explained at a 2K Games briefing. I cannot say that I had the issue, because I never uninstalled Bioshock after it was installed. Also, I would never recommend buying a game from EA’s download service due to the fact that in the past they have only allowed you to redownload the game for up to six months. YOu have to buy extended download service, which then allows you to download the game up to two years after purchase. Can’t say that I support that, because after two years, I have no game, and would have to repurchase it. This was the policy at the time of the Crysis, release, which made me go and buy it in the store.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24464 Bruce Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:01:14 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24464 No dude your seriously wrong. AND I GOT MASSIVELY SCREWED FROM YOUR 'STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION' I got this game on launch day, I was so happy I was looking forward to this new type of gaming experience... SO...I purchased a digital download from EA and started installing it on my main PC. Shortly after I installed it and started it the game started crashing for apparently noooo reason, I then decided to a reinstall so i did and didn't get any better results, I then popped open my case and realised that my video card was overheating and that was the cause... Ok, no problem, I loaded the game on my laptop to see what it would look like on that, but as I expected it looked pretty horriable. So, flash forward today i go down and buy a new video card, I come back and run a clean install (third) after I installed my fancy schmancy video card, get all settled in to have some fun and... "Sorry, you've installed this too many times please BUY another license" WTF??? I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME!!! No dude your seriously wrong.

AND I GOT MASSIVELY SCREWED FROM YOUR ‘STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION’

I got this game on launch day, I was so happy I was looking forward to this new type of gaming experience…

SO…I purchased a digital download from EA and started installing it on my main PC.

Shortly after I installed it and started it the game started crashing for apparently noooo reason, I then decided to a reinstall so i did and didn’t get any better results, I then popped open my case and realised that my video card was overheating and that was the cause…

Ok, no problem, I loaded the game on my laptop to see what it would look like on that, but as I expected it looked pretty horriable.

So, flash forward today i go down and buy a new video card, I come back and run a clean install (third) after I installed my fancy schmancy video card, get all settled in to have some fun and…

“Sorry, you’ve installed this too many times please BUY another license”

WTF??? I DIDN’T EVEN GET TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME!!!

]]> By: LoBi http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24460 LoBi Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:59:54 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24460 Joe Heygood the Games media is never going to shake the perception that it is corrupt and just another marketing tool for publishers when articles like this drivel turn up online. DRM means an end to mods! DRM means you can not sell your old game to help pay for the new one. DRM means you do not own what you have just paid for. DRM is just another elitest tool to maximise profit and place restrictions over freedom to choose. Those that pirate are only a small percentage, if corporate interests can get the general populace to submit to levels of control then it can be made impossible for pirates to operate, all the general population has to surrender is their right to choose, not all at once just a little here and a little there. So Joe toadys do do quite well, until the revolution comes, then they are torn apart by the Patriots, enjoy your pieces of silver while you can. Joe Heygood the Games media is never going to shake the perception that it is corrupt and just another marketing tool for publishers when articles like this drivel turn up online. DRM means an end to mods! DRM means you can not sell your old game to help pay for the new one. DRM means you do not own what you have just paid for. DRM is just another elitest tool to maximise profit and place restrictions over freedom to choose. Those that pirate are only a small percentage, if corporate interests can get the general populace to submit to levels of control then it can be made impossible for pirates to operate, all the general population has to surrender is their right to choose, not all at once just a little here and a little there. So Joe toadys do do quite well, until the revolution comes, then they are torn apart by the Patriots, enjoy your pieces of silver while you can.

]]> By: Rahn http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24458 Rahn Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:00:18 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24458 The real irony is the draconian DRM drove more people to pirate the game than any non-protected disc would have. The limited activations is a joke for something we're expected to spend $50-80 buck for. Try again EA and thanks for making the torrent nice and fast.. The real irony is the draconian DRM drove more people to pirate the game than any non-protected disc would have.

The limited activations is a joke for something we’re expected to spend $50-80 buck for.

Try again EA and thanks for making the torrent nice and fast..

]]> By: Pete http://www.aeropause.com/2008/05/mass-effect-spore-drm-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction/comment-page-1/#comment-24455 Pete Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:16:55 +0000 http://www.aeropause.com/?p=12619#comment-24455 I cant believe anyone is so stupid as to defend this move. Simply put, EA is taking out their anger over piracy on the wrong group. This would be like if the RIAA started walking into record stores and sueing consumers buying albums. This wont stop a thing. When Napster was huge, Sony tried to make software that would prohibbit computers from copying, music CDs. I think the guy who wrote the article said it best when he said "Don't they get it? For every engineer Sony pays thousands of dollars to develop this, there are 10 kids sitting at home who will learn to break it, just because they can". The same thing applies here. Sadly EA is but one company with limitted resources. Like with the music, there will always be more people working on pirating software, just for the hell of it than there will be trying to stop it. That sad part is, the honest comsummer, like myself is stuck in the middle, and we are gonna get screwed. . -Pete I cant believe anyone is so stupid as to defend this move. Simply put, EA is taking out their anger over piracy on the wrong group. This would be like if the RIAA started walking into record stores and sueing consumers buying albums. This wont stop a thing. When Napster was huge, Sony tried to make software that would prohibbit computers from copying, music CDs. I think the guy who wrote the article said it best when he said “Don’t they get it? For every engineer Sony pays thousands of dollars to develop this, there are 10 kids sitting at home who will learn to break it, just because they can”. The same thing applies here. Sadly EA is but one company with limitted resources. Like with the music, there will always be more people working on pirating software, just for the hell of it than there will be trying to stop it. That sad part is, the honest comsummer, like myself is stuck in the middle, and we are gonna get screwed.
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-Pete

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