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An Interview With A Cheater
By Richard Windsor | September 15, 2006
About 2 weeks ago I popped Halo 2 into my 360 and started playing some Big Team Battle. The very first game I played in I got modded, a.k.a. cheated on, by a guy whom we will refer to as ‘Schmuck5000′. After the game was over I asked him if he would agree to do an interview for Aeropause. At first he thought it was just a joke but I eventually got him to message me his e-mail. I then sent him an e-mail interview to fill out. What is written below is completely unedited from what I received from Schmuck5000. Please excuse any spelling or grammar errors. I thought it was important to show the intelligence of cheaters. I am very surprised that he e-mailed me back the answers. Some of the questions were fairly harsh.
Aeropause: How old are you and where are you from?
Schmuck5000: I am 24 years old and I live in central Texas.
Aeropause: Besides Halo 2 are there any other games at which you cheat?
Schmuck5000: I play BF2 and some Counter Strike. I cheat at both but it’s hard to get away with in Counter Strike. People who play CS are such babies about that stuff. The other players are just jealous p***ys who wish they had the ability to cheat.
Aeropause: Do you have a girlfriend?
Schmuck5000: What kind of freaking question is that for this kind of interview? How does me having a girlfriend relate to cheating? (AP: We will take that as a NO!)
Aeropause: What made you decide to mod your Xbox to gain an unfair advantage in games like Halo 2?
Schmuck5000: Modding is not an unfair advantage. There is just as much chance that there will be a modder on the other team. I am there to even things out. Halo 2 is beginning to get old, us modders are just making it more funner.
Aeropause: Do you get some kind of good feeling when a game is over and everyone is the room is calling you every cuss word known to man?
Schmuck5000: I tend to ignore those people, they bitch and morn about how I cheated but they could have modded their box just like mine. If you want to start complaining to me them don’t bother I have better things to do.
Aeropause: How many times have you been banned or suspended from gaming servers?
Schmuck5000: Wow, I have been kicked of XBL at least 10 times, I have to be careful now because there are no more 2 month cards floating around. The people at Bungie are the worst. How can they complain about people like me. They should have built a anti-cheating engine in the game to prevent it. Its not my fault that modders cheat.
Aeropause: Cheaters are mainly made up of people who lack the dexterity to play the game honestly. Did your inability to play the games well in the first place lead you to begin cheating?
Schmuck5000: I can play each and every game I cheat at very well. I will own anyone on the battlefield even without a mod, Believe It ! - (AP: Is that a Naruto reference?)
Aeropause: The rise of online gaming has had its share of hurdles and one of the greatest hurdles is getting rid of cheaters such as yourself. What advice would you give game designers to help discourage cheaters?
Schmuck5000: Give Up! There is no way to stop us. Everyone wants to cheat and we will always find a way to do it. Anyone reading this is simply jealous of the fact that I have enough nuts to cheat and play the game the way I want to.
Aeropause: Everyone online including myself see you as the scum of online gaming. How do you respond to that?
Schmuck5000: Like I give a flying F**k what other gamers think about me. As long as there are games there will be cheaters, why should I stop if no one else does, as far as I see it I am evening out the playing field!
I would like to say thank you to Schmuck5000 for letting us in on how utterly dumb and senseless the mind of a cheater can be. I am sure all our faithful Aeropausians would like to give you some kind messages within our comments section. (Please keep remarks at about a fifth grade level so he can read them, and please be tactful)
Comment by Jakanden — September 15, 2006 @ 8:19 am
What an assclown. People like him are the reason I avoid XBox Live
Comment by John B — September 15, 2006 @ 8:27 am
I can’t believe he actually answered all of those questions. Too bad about the girlfriend, though. Maybe he had one but cheated on her?
Comment by HarryA — September 15, 2006 @ 8:32 am
lol@John B. Good one
Comment by Veng3ance — September 15, 2006 @ 9:04 am
WOW, that guy is really sad. He is going to have a hard life I suspect. What a loser!!
Comment by Wrathchild — September 15, 2006 @ 9:35 am
“A thief believes everyone steals.” A cheater believes everyone cheats.
It behooves the game companies to take the effort to minimize the effect of cheating. Dickheads like this spoil the fun for everyone, and will eventually lead to people not buying games because they’re rife with cheaters. I know I personally don’t participate in online multiplayer games as much as I might otherwise in large part due to cheaters.
Of course, in American society, cheaters are often given a pass or hailed as “innovators”. Look at the pathetic efforts of Major League Baseball to reign in steroid and HGH use, the small number of people who actually obey the posted speed limit, the widely held notion that everyone cheats–just a little–on their tax returns, and, of course, James T. Kirk’s solution to the Kobyashi Maru simulation.
I very often feel in the minority since I >don’t< cheat at video games, or my taxes, or at Monopoly, or solitaire.
Comment by cheaters_mother — September 15, 2006 @ 10:11 am
the “only” reason my son cheats is because his lack of hand eye coordination is on such a low level he can’t even begin to understand whats going on, witch is probably due to having signs of retardness or down syndrome. Therefore he probably just wants to fit in and play like the normal people. God help him if anyone should ever try to kick his ass he would be down befor he even knew what happend. he will never have the reflexes most infants are born with.
Comment by Ryan — September 15, 2006 @ 10:19 am
This interview really hits home for me because I personally am friends with employees at bungie. Iv’e been to the dungeons where those guys work there butts off to make one of the greatest if not best FPS of all time and all this kid can do is cheat ?! Same thing with blizzard. I know people from blizzard as well and gold farmers ruin the economy of the game just to make money and cheat. It sickens me to read things like this. Cheaters are no better them spammers, hackers and thieves. Their actions should land them right in jail.
Comment by Assbestos — September 15, 2006 @ 10:24 am
Yep, he’s a loser. BTW people who cheat do it because they can’t compete, regardless of his self professed skill. Just watch guys like this get beat; invariably they turn to their crutch, and exploit the game in ways that other players can’t/won’t. That is why ultimatly they are inferior players, because the are never motivated to improve.
And Bitch, I hope I run into your ass on BF. I know just where you’ll be clipping.
Comment by Grimm — September 15, 2006 @ 10:26 am
I wish that they could just send an electronic pulse into your xbox once your caught cheating. Something that just fries the circuitry so the damn thing don’t work anymore. That way everytime they want to cheat it will cost them $150.00 =). Who else thinks that would be fair?
Comment by cheaters_mother — September 15, 2006 @ 10:27 am
In retrospect I think it may be the drinking I did while pregnant. I never really wanted him, and this behavior, although a needed handicap, only adds to that regret. Oh well, I’ve heard children born with these conditions don’t generally live long into adulthood. Fingers crossed.
Comment by Grimm — September 15, 2006 @ 10:39 am
@ cheaters_mother
Ok first of all if your anyones mother I feel sorry for them. Your lack of proper sentence structure is appauling…I think I got a little dumber reading that. Also if you have a retarded kid I feel sorry for you but maybe he shouldn’t play halo. Get your kid some nice retard friendly games like spongebob or something lmao. I mean honestly lady your child isn’t going to fit in no matter how hard to try. Ruining what other people pay their hard earned money for isn’t going to make him fit in…just make us hate him. Use some common sense for once in your life…
Comment by Grimm — September 15, 2006 @ 10:41 am
@ cheaters_mother
Ha that’s real funny…and very horrible. Never pretend anything like that even to be funny. I will laugh when your child is born retarded one day.
Comment by agreenbhm — September 15, 2006 @ 10:43 am
to cheaters_mother: WOW. IDK if the first post was real or not, but i’m sure as hell hoping the 2nd one was a joke posted by someone else
Comment by Andrew — September 15, 2006 @ 11:24 am
To cheaters_mother;
if there was so much of a hint of down syndrome or “retardness” in your son, surely you or any medical professional could have detected it in him at a very young age. That only reflects poorly on you as a bad mother (whether your pretending or not).
My baby brother has down syndrome, and while he may not be as developed as the average 4 year old, hes still a very bright child. People of special needs are no different from you or me, they just grow and learn more slowly.
having down syndrome or “retardness” is no excuse for anyone to cheat online.
Comment by Ahnteis — September 15, 2006 @ 11:37 am
>cheaters_mother<
That’s what bots are for. You (or someone you know) wants to cheat on your own, go for it. But don’t cheat when you’re playing with other people. You have no right to ruining the game for other players.
Comment by cheaters_mother — September 15, 2006 @ 11:37 am
Ha! Who’s the gullible retard here? You, retards. It’s you. Like my child, who is also retarded.
Comment by New England — September 15, 2006 @ 11:58 am
F*** the F***in F***!!! Cheaters are Pu**ys! Of course they don’t get laid. They are busy trying to put their floppy in a hard drive.
Comment by Fielin — September 15, 2006 @ 1:04 pm
Err, you DO realize cheater_mother is joking, right ? You cannot be believing this is a real person ?
This is a joke. Poor taste, I have to agree with you, but a joke indeed…
Comment by Midwest — September 15, 2006 @ 1:33 pm
I believe cheaters_mother is just Shmuck5000 trying to do what any other cheater does. Denial. I doubt he/she is even 24. I’m sorry for who ever plays against him, oh wait, no one does cause they all quit. Alone again…
Comment by slowmobro — September 15, 2006 @ 1:58 pm
I cheat at BF2. I pwn joo.
if you play BF2 and you see me, slowmobro, then watch out. I can see you through buildings, and I can teleport throughout the map.
I am everywhere!
Comment by Cheatme-eatme — September 15, 2006 @ 3:27 pm
This clowndick actually thinks he can play but he has to cheat? Yea, ok. Whatever helps you suckle at your mommas breast every evening. No life, not even online, testicle cuddler. “Other players are just pussys that wish they could cheat??” yea well the last pussy you ever got close to was yo mommas. Get used to going without. Keep working out those forearms and invest in a sock company… dicktard
Comment by A Lonely Nerd — September 15, 2006 @ 3:30 pm
LMFAO,
So this is where all the gullible nerds and retards hang out….I have found you at last my brothers!!!
Comment by GrouchyOldMan — September 15, 2006 @ 3:49 pm
Those of us who first gamed on Apple II and played Pong don’t have the twitch speed of youngsters. But this sad young man is a perfect example of the ME generation. The 21st Century will see civilization allegedly developed nations become less durable and more selfish. But then, they learned that from the GOP. From the people who brought you Weapons of Mass Distraction, their spawn… Inconsiderate Thugs.
Comment by Justor — September 15, 2006 @ 4:10 pm
Where is this A$$ clown at? I live in Dallas, I will drive there just to kick his A$$. Also if you can own people without cheating… then why cheat? Why because you have no skill and you could never get a hit without a hack
Comment by James — September 15, 2006 @ 6:44 pm
By: John B at September 15, 2006 08:27 AM
I can’t believe he actually answered all of those questions. Too bad about the girlfriend, though. Maybe he had one but cheated on her?
Classic joke..really good..
Comment by Dave — September 15, 2006 @ 7:44 pm
that guy is a dumb ass, but HOW FUCKING STUPID CAN YOU PEOPLE BE. THATS OBVIOUSLY SOME ONE POSING TO BE HIS MOTHER. NO FUCKING MOTHER WOULD EVER SAY THAT SHIT ABOUT THEIR SON.
Comment by ackbar — September 15, 2006 @ 8:20 pm
I hope you proceeded to report him to bungie and xbox live ?
Comment by Sp00nMan — September 15, 2006 @ 8:37 pm
Guys, the reason people cheat is not because they can’t play, it’s because they enjoy seeing other people unhappy. They are obviously loners with low social skills, and having people cuss at them and yell feeds their ego’s; it makes them feel important and popular. I know all this because I used to use bots back in the quake 2 days. I was lonely and single. Now I have a family and don’t get off on ruining peoples fun.
Now, the real evil cheaters are the ones who exploit the system to make money (anyone remember the ole diablo 2 item dupe hack? SOJ’s all over ebay)
My 2 cents
Comment by Nathan — September 15, 2006 @ 11:49 pm
I knew a few guys like this. They have limited IQ levels. They get their arse handed to them in real life so they try to compensate for that online. Many of them are lamers who just want to seem like a cool geek. Like that guy who bought his high end gaming system using his mom’s credit card to act so cool p0wning you on some random PC game using cheats. Most are posers with no popularity and only annoying dick friends just like them. You would hate them in real life as much as online. Thus the reason they act like that online. Most of them work at Wal-Mart. Or shop there frequently.
Comment by J A — September 16, 2006 @ 8:34 am
well look at him he lookslike a dick and if he has to cheat then he is actin like a dick……. all they are doin is increasing traffic to their website
Comment by ecto — September 16, 2006 @ 8:19 pm
There are actually legitimate reasons to cheat in an online game, even if Schmuck5000 is either unaware of them or simply failed to articulate his point-of-view. To understand these reasons you either have to set aside your sense of right and wrong, or you have to look at the situation from within a certain context. Here are a few reasons why you would cheat:You have a personal grudge against someone who is playing. It
Comment by Schmuck5000 — September 17, 2006 @ 3:42 am
OMG, You guys all suck.
Teh only reason I cheats all the time is cause I was beating everyone else this makes the game more boring than anything. So I use cheats to make it funa again.
If the games were more fun I wouldnt have to cheat
Comment by Drifter — September 17, 2006 @ 8:23 am
Wait… You started cheating because the game was too easy? So you used cheats to make the game fun? Huh… interesting how your mind works…
Comment by Dr. Milkdad — September 17, 2006 @ 9:54 am
You have a fat fetish
Comment by Matthew J. — September 17, 2006 @ 3:48 pm
“The devil made me do it!”
Schmuck, you are trash, spineless trash. You are loathed and hated not only by fellow gamers but by the makers of the games that you love to cheat in. No one has any reason to like you unless they themselves are scum. Your sound so much like the white power groups who abuse freedom of speech to promote their hate. You abuse your knowledge and ability to cheat just to get selfish enjoyment out of something - and, in the process, ruin it for the good, decent people who just want a good, fun, FAIR game. You are filth, and if I ever come face to face with any of you or your ilk, I will beat the living shit out of you… you know, because I can, since nobody programmed me with any anti-violence software.
Comment by walther — September 17, 2006 @ 4:15 pm
*puts on nomex suit*
If you really want to get into the mind of a cheater, spend some time over at the [myg0t] forums. They don’t cheat to win, they don’t cheat ‘cuz they suck; they cheat to ruin your game and laugh when you get pissed. It’s pretty funny, to be honest. I love a good rage
Comment by EsicBoyZ — September 18, 2006 @ 7:46 am
Most gamers are ’stat whores’! Some people hate stat whores so much…they will cheat or mod or glitch anything to be an ass, such as the person being interviewed. When your cheating online, your defeating the purpose for playing online, and more of a ‘baby’ then the ‘whiners’. Also, by cheating, your defeating the purpose of the Modders! Most of the ‘actual’ modders make the games to their liking, wasn’t CounterStrike a Halflife Mod?
So for you cheaters…..your life is short, I hope the companies find you and unplug you.
Get a Life………and remember it’s just a game!
Comment by David — September 18, 2006 @ 10:40 am
HAAAAHAHAHAHA cheaters mother
YHBT, seriously, let it go
Comment by tofystedeth — September 18, 2006 @ 10:57 am
While I do hate cheaters and modders, one of the proudest days of my Halo 2 gaming was the time my friend and I beat a modder. He was using the speed mod and super battle rifle, but was so bad he had trouble controlling himself. We ended up beating him 3-2 in CTF, pissing him off to no end. It felt good to have the modder being the one who was angry at the end of the match.
It also boggles my mind how many people think exploiting glitches in the map to “superjump” is not cheating, for the reason that “Bungie put it in there, they must want me to do it.”
Comment by cheaters_father — September 18, 2006 @ 11:02 am
Now now…take it easy on Schmuck5000 and cheaters_mother. It’s really neither of their faults. And take this bit of advice: ‘knocking some sense’ into someone strangely can have exactly the opposite effect. See Schmuck5000 and cheaters_mother.
Comment by Jakerabbit — September 18, 2006 @ 11:16 am
And this is why I haven’t enjoyed an FPS game online since Quake 2.
I was very good back in the day, had some real good skills. But this was all before wallhacks and what have you came out. Back then, it was pure skill. (I think there were a few autoaim scripts for Q2, but finding someone using it was rare, and they often got kicked.) CounterStrike was fun with friends, but it only took me a couple of days playing it online before I realized that FPS games were so rife with cheaters, I’d never enjoy FPSing with Joe Random ever again.
I wax poetic about Quake 2, for that simple reason. Its the last FPS I played that wasn’t riddled with cheats. Now I just play MMOs…which while they have cheats, are a lot better policed.
Comment by antiriad — September 18, 2006 @ 11:21 am
How does him having a girlfriend change anything? What kind of irrelevant shaming language is this?
Comment by Ryan — September 18, 2006 @ 11:28 am
What the author SHOULD have done is posted the morons “real” name from HALO 2 so everyone could stay away from hom…
Comment by James — September 18, 2006 @ 11:28 am
A few simple words for him.
Jackass, Shitbag, Virgin.
Comment by lives a real life — September 18, 2006 @ 11:31 am
It’s the worst when avid video gamers think you’re a looser. That makes you a looser’s looser.
Comment by Josh/Valcrus — September 18, 2006 @ 11:31 am
I can’t believe this guy. I cheat on FPS when I play single player for the first time because I want to see all the cinematic. Then I go back and play the game at the higher difficulty a month or so later. When I
Comment by Peter Herrin — September 18, 2006 @ 11:34 am
I had to stop playing Halo 2 online for several months because of people like this, and it never stopped being a problem. Arrogant and completely egotistical, to the point that their own teams don’t even matter to them. Kudos for letting us peer into the unsurprisingly empty mind of a cheater.
Comment by Rod — September 18, 2006 @ 11:38 am
WOW…I hate cheaters…As a host to many small LAN partys cheating can ruin the balance of game play for everyone. Developers work so hard on game play balance then one cheater messes the whole thing up.
Someday SCHMUCK will grow up or at least pass the 5th grade! lol
Rod
Comment by Seth — September 18, 2006 @ 11:42 am
when you’re afraid to play a game straight, there is a fucking problem. bungie has done a horrible job with cheaters. banned 10 times?!?! wtf!!!?! yes, the cheaters do suck, but i really fault bungie with dropping the ball on this. you can’t play certain match making games cause you KNOW you will get cheated. when your game has reached that stage, you need to take it offline and fucking fix it.
i for one, played Marathon, Halo and now Halo 2. I will NOT be buying halo 3 or the 360, due to bungies lack of control. not worth my time. many more games out there.
Comment by seth — September 18, 2006 @ 11:44 am
obviously I am not a gamer, but in general what is meant by modding your xbox to cheat? changing the hardware/software somehow? or just using “cheat codes” etc?
@editor - don’t say that the email field is optional, when it isn’t.
Comment by a dude — September 18, 2006 @ 11:48 am
Most of you seem to have missed the real reason cheaters cheat: power. Yes, some may cheat because they aren’t as good as other players, or they can’t solve a problem in a game and need a way around it.
But lots of cheating is done because it makes the player seem/feel invulnerable in the game setting, it artificially enhances ’skills’ so that obstacles/puzzles/opponents all seem easier.
Regardless of why someone starts cheating, some cheaters enjoy that sense of power from cheating so much that it becomes a kind of addiction. Addicted cheaters will act like any other addicts, rationalizing their behaviour so it makes sense to them.
Why? In some cases, just playing the game is never fun enough for them. If the developers are savvy enough, their game will appeal to a large number of people but it will never be exactly the right flavour for everyone, and even if a cheater would agree that in every way conceivable that a game is perfect for them, they may still not achieve the satisfaction they’re looking for without cheating.
It’s not fun to be the victim of a cheater, but most people I’ve gamed with would probably agree that they’ve wanted to cheat, even if they’ve never done it.
Still, one of Schmuck5000’s sentiments is correct: for as long as there are games, there will be cheaters. It’s a bit frustrating, but it’s there and it’s not going away. It’s only really a problem on an individual level when the cheaters can’t stop themselves or, conversely, when the anti-cheaters get so worked up that they begin threatening the cheaters, or even planning/doing worse.
Comment by Phred — September 18, 2006 @ 11:50 am
You see, it’s precisely because of people like this that I refuse to play online games. Ever. I’m perfectly happy to host LAN parties, by invitation only, with people who I know won’t cheat. But play online with idiots like this? Forget it.
Comment by asdfuiop — September 18, 2006 @ 11:55 am
You forgot a question: Do you live in your parents basement, or attic?
Comment by gyro — September 18, 2006 @ 11:58 am
I think this guy is great!! He’s honest and real. In every competition there is a drive to secure every competitive edge.
Steroids in pro sports? Sure!! Insider estimates suggest at least 30% of all NFL players cheat. Yet the public watches the games, bets on the games, and supports the cheating by buying into team propaganda.
Where is your outrage for this?
Most of the posters here are naive and hypocritical. If modding were as easy as entering cheat codes, EVERYONE would do it.
Comment by phresh — September 18, 2006 @ 11:58 am
Cheating is for little bitches. Leave it to M$ to make a console that people can cheat in multiplayer games with.
We all know you suck ass without your cheats, quit kidding youself.. you suck at videogames and you suck at life. Do us all a favor and go jump off a bridge. At least don’t procreate, the last thing the world needs is another ignorant douchebag like you.
Comment by Mature Cheater — September 18, 2006 @ 12:10 pm
Unlike most cheaters I am a respectable one. I only cheat about… 1 to 3 times a month really. ONly when I really want to vent my stress, like if I had a bad day or something I usually go and cheat. I’m 22yrs old. I don’t do drugs. I’m in college working on an Architecture Degree. I don’t cheat in real life such as in tests, my girlfriend (YES, I do have one), etc. I’ve cheated before on console games like N64, Genesis, PSX but usually after I finish beating the game. I’ve only started to cheat on online PC games like CS: SOurce, BF2, BF: 1942 like 6 months ago, mainly out of pure curiousity to see what it was like. When I started out I played in cheating servers made specifically for cheaters. Playing in there was a total blast of fun. Very rarely did I actually join a regular server with my hacks for the sake of ‘pwning’ bitches and hoes. I leave only when I’m found-out or they think I am.
Anyway, a cheater is a cheater, but I really haven’t cheated at all in the past 3 months due to school and my girlfriend. I still play games like BF2. That cheater he interviewed had an inferiority complex, he probably works at McDonalds as an Assistant Manager.
Comment by Agilo — September 18, 2006 @ 12:12 pm
May he (and other cheaters around the globe) die a horrible and painful death, is all I’m saying.
Comment by Big Huge DAve — September 18, 2006 @ 12:27 pm
“Those of us who first gamed on Apple II and played Pong don’t have the twitch speed of youngsters. But this sad young man is a perfect example of the ME generation. The 21st Century will see civilization allegedly developed nations become less durable and more selfish. But then, they learned that from the GOP. From the people who brought you Weapons of Mass Distraction, their spawn… Inconsiderate Thugs.”
Um, Grouchy Old Man, shove it up your arse. The GOP teaches selfishness? Yeah, right, and John Kerry’s multi-millionaire arse is all about sharing, non-selfish behaviour. Like most liberals you’re an idiot.
Comment by niner — September 18, 2006 @ 12:29 pm
The reason that he doesnt cheat in Counter-Strike isn’t because “people who play Counter-Strike are babies about that stuff.” Obviously. Its because Counter-Strike comes with a fairly effective anti-cheat mechanism that permanantly bans users (have to buy the game again to get back online) and because most popular servers have admins constantly online that will kick/ban someone who is cheating or making the game uncool for legitimate users. Those of you who have given up on online FPS’s because of cheaters are just selling yourselves short. If every game developer faught cheating like valve does and admins were as effective as myself and my friends on Counter-Strike are we wouldn’t have these problems. Cheat all you want in a feeble attemtp at covering up your deep seeded issues, you’ll never get away with it on the Counter-Strike servers I play on. Why? Because the programmers that design the game and the admins that run the servers are infinately smarter than these idiot cheaters. I play Counter-Strike every day and I can’t remember the last time, or any time, a cheater spoiled my game. Case closed.
And one more thing, even if you do cheat you won’t beat the regulars that play on my servers. Cheaters never win. Literally. The skill of any given player is obvious after observing them play for a few minutes. Thats all that matters. I don’t care if you get a lucky head shot on me. I’ll know right away if you are more or less skilled than me and thats what its all about. Its a sport.
Peace.
Comment by An Ony Mous — September 18, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
I would beat the shit out of this little cockbag faster than one could say Napoleon Complex. It’s colostomy bags like him which make it frustrating (impossible) for casual gamers like me to enjoy multiplayer gaming.
Comment by a non-cheater — September 18, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
It’s a shame that some game players are so lacking in honour and so emotionally retarded that they get off on pissing other people off and wielding ‘power’ over them. It’s all a bit sociopathic and I have to wonder how this mindset manifests itself in other areas of their lives.
I pity this guy and other cheaters.
Comment by SomeLlama — September 18, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
“How does him having a girlfriend change anything? What kind of irrelevant shaming language is this?”
I think there is a strong correlation between people who can have succesful real world relationships and those who cannot..
I would bet you that people who find nothing wrong with cheating and runing other people’s experiences have a hard time having relationships because they cannot emphasize with other people, all they think of are themselves and this makes it hard to consider someone else’s feelings, which is crucial in a relationship..
SO yes it is a valid question and quite revealing.
Comment by Mewtwo — September 18, 2006 @ 12:32 pm
I’m a bit perturbed at how many people are saying gold farming = cheating. I don’t play WoW, but if I did, it would be to do that and make money. I respect those who are able to use virtual money and turn it into real money.
Mature Cheater: Why AREN’T you cheating on tests? That’s one of the best places to do it!
Comment by psion — September 18, 2006 @ 12:46 pm
I have seen my fair share of morons and the like. This guy happens to be my favorite kind of moron, the one who thinks that he is better than everyone else. And he will go to great lengths to prove it as well. And he is not trying to play the game, nor is he trying to boost his stats. He’s using a mod as a from of proof that he is better. I can most liekly bet anyone here that if he took out the mod and played on his own, he most likely would lose horribly, as he either was never good to begin with, or has gotten so dependant on the mod that he can’t play a regular game.
Comment by DeMoN — September 18, 2006 @ 12:47 pm
I am completely appalled and outraged at the misrepresentation given towards cheaters here. It is much like if I were to interview David Duke on what his thoughts would be to secure a safer America for African American students. If you would like to truly interview a true “cheater” then interview someone who actually has a brain cell or 2 functioning. Your stereotype is ridiculous and offensive. Although I
Comment by mh — September 18, 2006 @ 12:53 pm
I applaud the technical skill required to develop new mods. Obviously, Shmuck5000 gets more pleasure out of the modding than he does out of the playing. But I think modders should compete only with other modders. Think of it as a kind of “battlebots” — the battlebots are the creations whose superiority is shown by competing againt other battlebots. Similarly, modders can show the superiority of their mods by competing against other modders. Are there already venues where modding is not only permitted, but encouraged? There should be.
Oh, and cheaters in regular games should be nuked with extreme predjudice.
Comment by Marmotte — September 18, 2006 @ 1:02 pm
to win a game is to take the advatage over adversary using actions allowed in a context, i mean the game rules.
to cheat, in computer games or olympics or everywhere else, is to do unallowed actions in the game context. games rules may be official rules or established rules by the currently playing gamers.
If I play in a lan with friends, and it has been said that it is allowed to perform cheat codes, for example, then I am not cheating if I do so.
not to a lower lever or mentality:
if you fuckin want to pwn everyones ass, then you need to win !
now to win, you need to take advantage over others. if you cheat, you take advantage over others, yeah, but you can’t win, in respect to what i said. if you like to have this advantage, then to train is the solution. at last you will be even to the other skilled people like you. at this point the is no way to take advatage while playing. why? because you can’t train your skills in more complexe and challengeful context, i.e. you are already perfect in that context level. Now, use your modders skills, to mod everyones xbox so people become a little bit closer to you in skill and thus the game context will be harder and after a bit of training you will be more and more skilled.
you like:
1-to prove you modders talent: you will still mod some xbox
2-to see people jalous of you: everyone will be jalous of your unmoddified xbox skills
3-to receive insults: everybody will complain because you will still take advantage over them and you will still be insulted by less skilled poeple.
4-to have immediate advantage without training ? be god or play with you dog at chess.
to ecto:
i was playing diablo2 when they changed the game (patch 1.08). i studied very hard every formulas in that damn chaos sanctuary. my lvl1 use to wear lvl30 items just because i played for long looking for specific items i needed. also i had a caracter of each type boosted using the best strategies. everything without cheating. then blizzard changed the rules of the game I trained for. even if they where high lvls, none of my caracters where able to kill act1 monsters, because they where very specialized in weak points blizzard changed. i think this is no respect for the gamers, and so the is no need to respect the game at this point. i did not start to cheat at this game, but if i someone had told me he would cheat to ruin the game, i think i would have said nothing (sorry for grammar).
i suspect they changed rules in order to introduce their expansion, and force gamers to restart the game, which i won’t. never tried it indeed.
i agree with shmuck5000 that poeple playing cs are babies about cheating. this is like paranoia.
but the fact is: they are babies because of you.
because of cheaters, when someone starts to be good in a game, he is soon called cheater.
when not skilled, people:
1-train
2-cheat
3-stop playing
point 1 leads to a greater fun when advantage is reached, because domination is stronger
point 2 leads to a domination but it was so easy that you will always want to have the first type of power =)
point 3 will never gives you the power feeling of having the advantage.
peace to cheaters
respect to winner
Comment by ending — September 18, 2006 @ 1:09 pm
People who ‘cheat’ and use exploits show their superiority of the average player. They actually use their brains to research and how to get around physical and digital security to make life more interesting. If it’s digital, its exploitable, remember that kiddies. It takes real genius to outsmart everyone else.
Of course this only applies to those who create their own cheats and find their own exploits. The annoying little script kiddie fucks can go to hell.
Comment by Adam — September 18, 2006 @ 1:14 pm
HAHA! Some of these comments are funny…Ok what was I gonna say? I’ve softmodded my box EARLY, probly one of the first’s out there since the exploit came out….MicRO$loFT didn’t think that exploits were not gonna happen, in fact, if they did, i dont think they would have built such a COMPUTER like console. The wonders of what you can do with a computer is AWESomE…like this putting your whole xbox into a freakin recliner….yes…. thus making the XBoX chair!
As i will get to the point, modding was meant to happen, because you have all the necessities there to do it!
AS SOME OF U think that cheating is a way to get through the game faster and easier, its not really the point here. I would say that WE (MY bro, AND MY Cuz AND ME) were pretty damn good at HALO 2 to make it through to Nationals for the World CYber Games last year WITHOUT CHEATING!
I know i got tired of all the modding on HALO 2, it just wasnt fun to play the game anymore…until I felt like I wanted to get back AT THE CHEATERS, so i became one. We felt like there was no possible way to stop all the Modders on HALO 2. Which there really isn’t!!! unless they took the GAME away! (kind of like all the piracy going around, yea im a pirate too)
Hackers are not bad, in fact ANTI-HAckINg is what most of what im doing now. Just remember, there will be EXPLOITS on ANYTHING that comes out on the market. You cannot have a flawless product out ther.
I think i know schmuuk5000-it sounds so familiar…I bet he goes to TSTC…lol, I live in central Texas too!
MicrO$loft, BELIEVE IT! lol, i dont watch the AMERICRAP NARUTO-Japanese all the way!
Comment by Bongart — September 18, 2006 @ 1:15 pm
This cheater’s answers are all over the board and contradictory. Big time. He points out how Bungie should have developed an anti-cheating engine to protect their game, then goes on to say how no game company should bother to do this, because modders and cheaters will always mod and cheat. He claims to be able to pwn anyone he comes across in a game without the cheats he uses, yet he still uses the cheats.
Then, there is that comment about how he is only evening out the playing field. He says that he cheats, because there is just as much chance of a modder on the other team. If he is modding, then he is saying that he is 10 percent sure that someone is cheating on the other team. Pure justification bullsh*t.
This cheater, like many others, is simply looking to place himself in some perceived position of power, because of his own self-esteem issues. His comments about not caring what other people thought of him is also bullsh*t. He would not be trying to be the winner through cheating, if he did not care about external responses. If he truly did not care, he would play the game for the fun of playing, win or lose. More importantly, he would play single player games, not multiplayer.
Comment by Marmotte — September 18, 2006 @ 1:17 pm
mature cheater, i understand your point, but there is other ways to vent the stress. i usualy go and run like an idiot in fps doing unusual actions and my stress goes when i think of the other guys faces saying ‘wtf is he doing, damnit’
stupid things are the stressless
cheat is stupid but there are other stupid things
i agree with niner
respect to ‘a dude’
Comment by Lee — September 18, 2006 @ 1:30 pm
This is news? I must say that the level of journalism provided here is almost as bad as the intelligence of the cheater interviewed. I was hoping for an unbiased look into the mind of a cheater, and I found a disgruntled news reported who lost a video game and is complaining about it. How about some more in-depth questions to uncover the real reasons behind cheating, etc.
Asking if someone has a girlfriend is not a credible way to handle an interview when your follow-up questions include “Aeropause: Everyone online including myself see you as the scum of online gaming. How do you respond to that?”
This whole interview could have been so much more interesting.
Comment by JD — September 18, 2006 @ 1:32 pm
As I get older and older, I have less and less time for people like S5000. Child, if you’re reading this, I hope you die from cancer. One less parasite in the world.
Comment by brandon — September 18, 2006 @ 1:32 pm
While I think Schmuck is horribly off with some of his logic I found one thing I agree with him completley on: Why doesn’t Microsoft/Bungie do more about this? On a PC there are many more ways to load malicious software but with a gaming console this shouldn’t be so. I guess cheaters just aren’t hurting them enough financially by ruining the gaming experience. I, for one have just cancelled my XBLive account in protest of the cheaters on there. I don’t really want to move onto another FPS but it’s not worth the frustration anymore.. and it’s the only way to speak with my dollars.
Comment by LimewaxSavesDNB — September 18, 2006 @ 1:47 pm
o.O
(and i’m paraphrasing) :
“I decided to cheat because I was so good that it made the game fun again.”
What kind of backwards logic is this? Try playing CS with only a pistol or something.
“Modding is not an unfair advantage. There is just as much chance that there will be a modder on the other team. I am there to even things out.”
So how do you cope if every single person on the server was cheating too? You’d still be just as bad as you are without the cheats.
The whole point of playing online (other than just pissing people off) is to test your skill. Cheaters are the equivalent of a gaming suicide bomber. Let’s ruin as many people’s fun as possible. Praise be to Allah who gives me the strength to pwn thine enemies via wallhax0rs.
Comment by Marty — September 18, 2006 @ 1:54 pm
Someone asks:
How does him having a girlfriend change anything? What kind of irrelevant shaming language is this?
Because there is an inference that someone who has a significant other has some empathy and possibly can put the feelings of someone else above their own from time to time.
Cheaters think of themselves only. They do not cheat “for the good of the team” or any other BS rationalization. They cheat because it makes them feel powerful or makes up for some other self-esteem problem(s).
Those of us who have the ability to cheat (technical or otherwise), but choose not to, choose to not cheat because we play for the fun of all involved. We empathize with other players and know if everyone plays on a fair and level playing field, everyone will have fun.
We are able to put aside our own need for victory (or whatever twisted gratification cheaters get) for the good of all. Cheaters are the same people who don’t have those social skills, so the likelyhood of a significant other decreases dramatically. Their self-esteem issues or lack of social behavioral norms require that they “pwn” all the other players by whatever means necessary. This kind of emotional retardation usually doesn’t fly in a relationship.
Therefore, the question is not at all irrelevant.
Comment by soxos — September 18, 2006 @ 2:02 pm
I’ve never understood how cheating at games can be fun for more than a short time. I’m thinking of the one of the classroom dialogues in Starship Troopers where Rico is questioned about how much he would appreciate a trophy if he didn’t earn it. The Civics teacher goes on to say that the best things in life must be purchased other than with money (aka, the real free as in freedom). It’s a small person who needs to lie to himself to feel pride. I agree with the interviweed schmuck. There _will_ always be cheaters and I will always pity them for the sad people they are.
Comment by RAWPOWER95 — September 18, 2006 @ 2:09 pm
Oh yes, getting modded on and losing to an unfair advantage, with no one modding on your team to help is MUCH more funner, than say, playing a fair game.
Comment by DKarma — September 18, 2006 @ 2:21 pm
Bahahaha 24….riiiight… more like 12. What kind of LOSER cheats at XBL?!?!? LMAO this kid is an idiot. I be he got owned for months and then decided to google how to cheat. At least cheat at a game that allows cheating like ET… or any game server w/ punkbuster OFF. Cheating against non-cheaters makes the cheater an even bigger Pu$$33.
Comment by English Professor — September 18, 2006 @ 2:22 pm
WTF?
Doesn’t anyone take English classes?
There are several examples of illiteracy in America (and the rest of the world):
Learn the difference between Your, You’re, and You Are.
Also:
Lose and Loose. You can’t ‘LOOSE’ a game. What, is it too tight or something?
Fuck sake people. Quit bitching and learn the language you speak.
Comment by Gooseman — September 18, 2006 @ 2:24 pm
The same people who cheat at games usually wish they were bullies in real life. They’re usually bullied themselves, or excluded in some fashion. As far a this being an internal compensation form however, it’s relatively minor. I mean it sucks to play someone who has assured that there is now way possible for you to win, but it could be worse. The cheater could take the next step and go gun up a school
Comment by Ran-bot — September 18, 2006 @ 2:27 pm
Interesting backwards logic there by Schmuck5000. But that’s pretty much what all honest gamers have to deal with. The sad part is that I honestly believe that the vast majority of gamers do not cheat, but anyone who is legitimately good is automatically suspect of being a cheater. I’ve never cheated at CS, but I’ve been kicked out of countless servers after being accused of cheating. It sucks, but it’s just the suspicious atmosphere that’s been generated by cheaters. (I always took kicks/bans from random servers as a badge of honor, though )
If you’re an honest gamer, here are my suggestions:
1) Find a group of honest people to regularly play with.
2) Make your own server with said group of players and police it accordingly. You will find that other non-cheaters will likely appreciate this thus attracting more non-cheaters.
3) Avoid competitive power-gaming. When the competition gets fierce, the allure and rewards of cheating increase. I would be highly suspicious of any game competition that is not done as a LAN party/convention-style with on-lookers.
Comment by vshields ash — September 18, 2006 @ 2:35 pm
see, whud i tell ya…i knew some of these creeps could see through walls
Comment by cheaters_mother — September 18, 2006 @ 2:41 pm
I gnawed off both of my breasts to survive in the wilderness.
Comment by Z-Train — September 18, 2006 @ 2:41 pm
You know. I didn’t even waste my time playing. I like doing things in real life for instance meeting real people.
Comment by krso — September 18, 2006 @ 2:50 pm
Some important questions you didn’t ask him:
do you have friends who cheat?
is cheater community socially active?
where/how do you get your cheats/mods/whatever_stuff?
do you still enjoy playing then others start accusing you of cheating?
Comment by Danj3ris — September 18, 2006 @ 2:56 pm
You guys should check out this video. Its an oldie but a goodie, and expresses exactly how cheaters should be dealt with.
http://www.vwho.net/player.php?VE_Path=selfserve1.download.videoegg.com/gid356/cid1161/L1/3A/1157696621ABrTZevxKWbgZlGOfVxF
Comment by AnotherCheater — September 18, 2006 @ 2:58 pm
May I offer a new perspective on why some cheaters cheat?
Because, simply put, f**cking with nerds is really great fun.
This thread is perfect evidence of that. People freak out when you cheat and it can be really hilarious at times. Imagining some kid smash his controller while you listen to him scream his ass off is just plain fun.
The really wonderful part is, these players practice all day to be good, and I need not practice at all to ruin their entire f**king day.
So keep crying, keep giving me a reason. I need not win to enjoy myself.
Comment by Crithon — September 18, 2006 @ 3:06 pm
there should seriously be some kind of level barrier for those who want to play the game fair and those who want to be jack asses. I mean in a fair game of football someone like this would immediatly be voted out and shunned from fair games….. or in a philly game of basketball he’d be stabbed to death. Some people can take games too serious, so I can understand where someone just wants to goof off because they can’t play up par with the big boys. I mean compar this with a real game of pool at a local bar, or a serious game of poker, some players are too serious that it might be life or death. This kid wouldn’t have done it if he was at a Lan party or even playing a game for money, instead he has the safety of anonymity. On top of that, there is this idea people have that a game like Halo 2 is less then a game of poker or Basketball. Like it’s ment for kids, so we got all these aspects preventing people from taking the game serious.
Comment by Disreputable — September 18, 2006 @ 3:10 pm
No matter the excuse or feeble reasoning: people who cheat simply crave to feel better than everyone else
Comment by dBs — September 18, 2006 @ 3:15 pm
Cheaters arent just annoying for the reasons everyones said so far but also because it makes things difficults for players that are very good that dont cheat. With rampent cheating you cant tell if your playing someone exceptionally good or a cheater and oftentimes good players will get kicked/banned because people think they are cheating (with good reason) when they are just very skilled.
The real job of a cheater isnt to win but to rationalize their actions.
Comment by Test12 — September 18, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
GOLD FARMERS ARE GOOD !!! (at least in wow). With farmers the stocks are high on AH : remove all the farmers and demand will be much higher. It’s happening right now in ER
Comment by MrSpock — September 18, 2006 @ 3:24 pm
The only way ppl like this will be stopped (and by extension, the mods themselves) is if everyone else adopts a zero-tolerance attitude. Simply leave the server and let him play with himself or put the no teaming rules on hold and gang up on the rat bastard (depending on the game of course, the second option might not be feasable). Refusing to play takes some resolve for some of you hard-core gamers out there, but continuing to play with someone who uses head shot mods and the like leads to nothing but frustration anyway. While I do not own an Xbox, I am frequently found on Steam playing HL2 and HL. Those are also rife with cheaters. They’re easy to spot if you spend enough time in the games. In short, shun them! It won’t take long before cheaters get the message they aren’t welcome.
Comment by another non cheater — September 18, 2006 @ 3:36 pm
What really gets me is the complete lack of respect. Cheat… foul language…
Little kids and older kids. The mouths on these little brats.
I guess since there are no girlfriends or mom and dad have gone to bed; they think foul language is okay to spout to someone they don’t know. No repercussions (sorry you said no big words)… http://www.dictionary.com. Have someone read it to you.
I was considering going to one of the MLG’s but decided against it because I might be tempted smack down one of these little brats. Prison scares me.
You know these little farts wouldn’t say things like this to your face. Why is it okay on line? I guess that’s a different questionnaire.
Look, I play Halo 2 a lot and I suck at it, but don’t see the need to cheat. I know how and have the ability to do so, but chose not to. I don’t see the point. Just play the game like it was designed.
Oh, and mom doesn’t pay my bills nor do I have tons of 2 month subscriptions in my pocket. Nope I pay for my connections and my LIVE account.
I enjoy shooting others (in game of course) as it is an escape from work.
Keep it clean
Comment by Casual Observer — September 18, 2006 @ 3:41 pm
XBL on 360 has really taken some significant steps to help normal gamers avoid those with self esteem issues who find pleasure in out-scoring people by using cheats. I’m in the Recreational class, and I can honestly say that with COD2, I tend to have a decent experience, even playing with random players that I don’t know. Yeah, I occasionally bump into a loser, but the host typically kicks him. Or if the idiot is the host, everyone bails out. There’s no use wasting time on people like that. Yeah, I might get dinged for leaving early, but it’s not really that serious in the long run.
You do have to wonder…doesn’t it get lonely having people boot you or leave your game all the time? What a hollow way to play.
Instead of getting angry, I just chuckle and remember that the poor guy must really have a sad personal life if he has to play that way to make himself feel good. And remember, we need people like this in life: they’re the folks who do the menial jobs that the rest of us don’t want to do, but couldn’t live without!
Comment by ThereTheirThey're — September 18, 2006 @ 3:47 pm
YOU’RE an a$$hole for modding YOUR xbox and cheating. bungie and microsoft have every right to ban you from THEIR service, which THEY’RE going to do, god help us, every time YOUR dumbass cheats on THEIR service. THERE you have it, you jackass.
Comment by Geiseric — September 18, 2006 @ 3:48 pm
First off what offends me most about this interview is its bloody biased. You take an idiot who is supposedly 24 but has such a limited knowledge of grammer that I doubt he is out of middle school.
Second off, really what agrivates me is you seem to be attacking to groups as one: modders and cheaters. While I’ve got no real hatred for cheaters, they obviously have some issues to work out(is it really that important to win a damn game) modders are what make the games live. We take the step away from consumer to changeing the product, often for the better. Without our input, there would be no counterstrike, no Halo custom edition.
Third, I hear a lot of “Well; the companies should do something major to fix this!” Keep in mind the more power you give them over YOUR product, the more difficult it becomes to have user created levels, mods, which you ALL use. It is also this mentallity which leads to a company owned product licence, like the xbox, where microsoft claims that even though you paid $150 for it at the store, it is still legaly their property that you are meerly leasing; again, cutting short creativity. If you want to see an end to all creativity just becuase some people have this neurotic need to win, then by all means, continue to call for more big brother-esque means of limiting controls. But I for one do not like the way this is going, and your go with the crowd mentality is to the gain of those making money from the games, not you.
Comment by DaDude — September 18, 2006 @ 4:02 pm
Cheating can be a way of hacking. See if you can circumvent the system with a clever methode.
Datel (and like) is selling tools to do it for ages. So as long as you don’t hurt others in online play it’s OK with me.
This guy is a bit like the people who randomly kick other people on the street and run away.. burn his house
Comment by cell9song — September 18, 2006 @ 4:04 pm
“Mature Cheater”, ponder this….I’ve never cheated in gaming a day in my life. Why? because my ego can handle loss. I don’t need to place my self-worth into whether my stats are up to that of my peers.
To the other cheater who posted that its about “power” I agree….though I wouldn’t use such a term thats reserved for MEN who run corporations, armies what have you. Its more along the lines of a weak character, the same issue that probably keeps many of these guys home on the weekends when others of their age are out dating chicks, pursuing sports or simply hanging with the guys. your fear of looking at your weaknesses and inability to address them comes out as pretending to be some kind of keyboard bad-ass to the other anonymous twinks doing the same thing. Frankly, I don’t cheat not because of some ethical or moral justification, what it is is the fact that I couldn’t look at myself and know I had to use a hack just to make myself feel better about me. Its the same feeling you have when you puss out of a schoolyard fight. you realize later that the embarrassment and self-loathing is far worse than any beating you might have gotten.
Comment by Laughing — September 18, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
Um, Geiseric, dude! Please don’t comment on grammatical errors if you yourself cannot construct an error-free note…
It’s grammar, not grammer.
Aggravates, not agrivates.
The word for the number 2 is “two”
Changing, not changeing
Mentality, not mentallity
License, not licence
Merely, not meerly
Because, not becuase
Also, for the love of God, its is the possessive of it, while it’s is a contraction for “it is.”
Sorry, I had to get that off my chest. I could’ve survived a few, but after starting out with the slam about grammar, then making so many errors, I had no choice. (And I refrained from mentioning all of the capitalization errors!)
The point here is that to make an honest argument that cheaters are idiots, we have to at least be able to demonstrate that we are not idiots ourselves, right?
Whew.
Comment by Pretty old too — September 18, 2006 @ 4:11 pm
Wow, this whole thing has gotten pretty pathetic.
I think everyone here needs to quit hanging out behind their consoles and computers and get some sun light. Or better yet, go exercise or read a book.
I can remember back in the early eighties, playing arcade machines and people were already cheating.
What about all the console magazines with their cheat sections? I remember those well. I’ve used cheat codes, received duped items playing PSO, or heard about Botters in other MMO’s.
But all the cheating didn’t bother me, if I didn’t want to cheat, then I wouldn’t cheat.
The way I see it is, if you don’t want to cheat or play with cheaters make sure they’re not in the game with you. If you catch them cheating kick them out, and restart. What’s setting up another game, you’re there playing all night anyway, right?
Comment by why is this slashdotted? — September 18, 2006 @ 4:11 pm
Seriously, this article is fabricated. While cheating is real, this interview is not. To the guy writing the fiction, you fail at writing dialogue.
you want to seperate this blog from the sea of crap, then write something of substance or snag something exclusive. Do not resort to writing fiction masked as nonfiction.
Comment by Darkside — September 18, 2006 @ 4:12 pm
While I believe cheating is wrong, you should develop your own skills in a game, modding the Xbox turns that small (did I just say that?) black box into so much more.
With homebrew software like XBMC my Xbox is now the equivalent of a Media Centre PC (Granted it can’t play ultra high resolution video (720p) very well - only 733Mhz, mind you).
No, I don’t play on XBL, I don’t want to, I don’t have enough time) final year of high school.
Yes, I have tried cheats in LAN games, and while they may be fun to play with at first (especially owning our local Halo 2 master multiple times) it just gets boring after a while. It’s much funner to play normally.
My 2(denomination-of-choice).
Comment by FOX News — September 18, 2006 @ 4:23 pm
Cheating is wrong… especially when it takes the form of coming up with a bogus interview instead of doing the leg-work and actually finding someone to answer your lame questions.
Comment by Richard — September 18, 2006 @ 4:32 pm
Dear Fox News, It sounds like you have a problem with this interview. I assure you that the person with whom I did this interview is a real person. I never thought he would send me his awnsers back and when he did I was surprised at what I read. Not all cheaters are mindless as not all criminals are stupid but the they are all losers!
Comment by Flash — September 18, 2006 @ 4:40 pm
if you cant play a game fair, dont play it.
go play a game you can play fair and dont annoy other players with it
Comment by Tarv — September 18, 2006 @ 5:09 pm
get rid of the anonymity and the cheating will go away.
Comment by Cheator: Robot Ninja from Cheatslvania! — September 18, 2006 @ 5:30 pm
I must confess that I too cheated on Duck Hunt…but that’s it ok!…Monopoly too. I’M SO ASHAMED!
But suuuriously, what kind of douche-monkey mods a game to his advantage. Not cool. On the other hand, I guess I would have to give props to anyone who mods something to give themselves a DISadvantage in order to make it more challenging on themselves. <–Was that redundant? Meh.
Now I must be off! I have circuits to suck! Mwahahahahahahahahaahaahhahahahahahahahaha!
My laugh is evil. Conniving too! *squeaky squeaky*
Comment by BlackLiger — September 18, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
Frankly, I must quote Dawn of War at this point.
BURN THE HERETIC!
Cheaters have a special place reserved in hell, where its like that episode of red dwarf. Every cheat they try to do is reversed. So trying an invunerablity cheat effectively makes their entire opponent force invunerable, but ONLY TO THEM
Comment by Loomis — September 18, 2006 @ 5:50 pm
“Winning an arguement on the internet is like winning in the special olympics… even if you win, you’re still retarded”
Comment by DarkNemesis618 — September 18, 2006 @ 6:00 pm
Next Step: Cheats the IRS out of money
Step After: Ends up in jail for tax evasion and gets his just desserts
Comment by Richard (AeroPause) — September 18, 2006 @ 6:14 pm
You know guys I really wish that I could let you all know who this guy is but I can’t. I can however let you know that I did report him to Bungie about the modding but I have no idea if he was banned again. The problem with people like this is that they are very persistant when it comes to their activities!
Comment by Simon — September 18, 2006 @ 7:21 pm
Luckily the interviewer didn’t submit any leading questions, or put any words into the interviewee’s mouth! That would really have reflected badly on the interviewer, and might have lowered the tone and damaged the credibility of the interview.
In conclusion, it’s lucky the interviewer didn’t do any of that stuff.
Comment by Dev-UnModded — September 18, 2006 @ 8:23 pm
I’ve never seen such a terrible display of spelling and grammar.
Haters…
Cheating is a instinctive base, just like belief in gods, astrology, the desire to reproduce. It’s the competitive nature we have. To beat out rivals and win the prize.
Whatever you use to justify cheating, it doesn’t do it. It just shows you’re willing to step on everyone you can to obtain the glory you so foolishly desire.
Let go of the instincts, don’t go to church, don’t believe horoscopes, don’t give in to the desire to cheat.
BTW, liberals aren’t idiots, they’re compassionate people who care about you. You who don’t care about anything anyone but yourself. Typical republican/conservative.
Comment by wondering... — September 18, 2006 @ 8:35 pm
Wait a second. If you are so keen to forget religion, AND intincts … what do you have? Are you a nhilist? And if so… Why do you care about cheating? Why do you care about anything? Rules and laws are just a way of putting morality on paper (or a method of control to some). So what, if not a sense of religous doom, or the instictive urge to spread your DNA controls you? Think through your perspective before you spew your liberal vomit on us, please.
Comment by Max — September 18, 2006 @ 8:46 pm
Cheaters are just Losers in life. This is why i stopped playing Quake all those years ago. What does surprise me though is this guy is 24 and not 12.
Comment by omg... — September 18, 2006 @ 8:51 pm
The point of playing a game is so everyone can have fun, not just the winners. When playing multiplayer games like Counter Strike or Warcraft, people generally have fun playing, whether they are losing or not. Although frustration may kick in at times when players aren’t doing so hot, most gamers are just having fun. However, cheaters change the whole scheme of things. When people are taking unfair advantages of the game, it no longer becomes fun. It shifts into a disgusting abuse of resources that usually ends in many people bitching, whining, and yelling.
Imagine playing a monopoly with two times more money than everyone else, or weighted dice that helped you roll just what you needed to get that monopoly, the game would basically be over in four rounds when you procured 3 key monopolies.
There are reasons for rules that crack down on bitches like this cheater. To keep games fun and competative. And to keep morons like this guy from ruining it for everyone.
Comment by gimme ur cookie — September 18, 2006 @ 8:54 pm
The purpose of a game is to allow people to have fun. It no longer is a game when you defeat the purpose by cheating and ruin everyone else’s opportunity to have fun.
In short… f*** cheating.
Comment by freddy darwin — September 18, 2006 @ 9:50 pm
its all because hes annonymous. if he did such things in real life he’d live in fear of the beat down he deserves once found out. gaming companies should setup accountability servers, premium anti cheat servers where everyone is identified and credit card info is logged. cheating results in ban and mugshot on webpage with description of behavior. leave other servers free for people who don’t want that level of scruitiny, but give the honest people a choice to play cheat free. it really would be nice to identify such people so companies wouldn’t hire them. these are the types that steal and do other corrupt things when they think they can get away with it.
Comment by johnny — September 18, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
This whole thing reminds me of the “l337 h4×0r” scene. I’ve read other interviews about “cheaters” who actually discover and create the cheats for games, and dedicate servers to cheating to invite others to try out their cheats against eachother. What struck me the most was the statement of jelousy, as if this person really thought others didn’t cheat because they couldn’t if they wanted to. Really makes me never want to play on a public FPS server again.
Comment by WoWgirl — September 18, 2006 @ 11:17 pm
Why would anyone name themselves pe–is? (i.e ‘Schmuck’)
Comment by Karl — September 18, 2006 @ 11:19 pm
Cheaters are always great at rationalization:
a) I do it because other people do it too.
b) It evens things out.
c) your just jealous of my 133t cheating sk1llz.
d) Even if I didn’t cheat, I would own you on the battlefield. I cheat because I’m trying to avoid carple tunnel(sp?).
Comment by Brad — September 18, 2006 @ 11:58 pm
If he is 24 years old then English must be his second language. My six year old sister constructs better sentences than he does. My advice is that if cheating at online games is the only way your can pwn then the world has pwned you already.
Comment by sufferingnow — September 19, 2006 @ 12:11 am
Just wish we could of seen a picture of this guy probably some lard bagged four eyes
Comment by usedtocheat — September 19, 2006 @ 1:15 am
I’ll straight-up admit it, I played and cheated in Counter-Strike on and off for about a year or so. Before that, I played CS amongst other FPS pretty seriously for a long time, and ran into those cheaters that you all curse. I hated them too. I didn’t start cheating because I was terrible at the game, because I wasn’t. I, as well as my peers, were as good as they come. I didn’t adopt the complete lie of an attitude “can’t beat em, join em.” But there did indeed come a time where the game became boring and when I did decide to start running the hacks, became fun again. Obviously, as with any form of cheating, you require more and more of it to become effective at entertaining you (I guess you could relate this to crime, drugs, sexual encounters, etc etc) When that time came, I would just quit playing, but that game was always there to pick right back up and run in and own some face with zero effort and nothing but laughs and entertainment at the immature responses yielded from the 14-18 year old bracket I was usually pub’ing against. Consider it more of a voyuerism at the misery of people I could care less about.
Now, on the other hand, when I saw an honestly mature person trying to deal with me being the cheating person on their favorite server, I just bounced to a different server, feeling somewhat regretful and sorry that I had screwed up someone who honestly still gains fun from the game. Yeah, cheaters are immature. That’s honestly the funnest part about cheating, it takes all the seriousness (failure factor) out of the game and allows you to just take in what games were about when you didn’t freak out over random failures within the game. (Which I myself am one of those people. )
CS was the only game I ever cheated at, because in the end it actually did completely ruin the game for me. When I went back to playing authentically in CS:S, I couldn’t take the game seriously. Mostly because it’s the same exact game, due to the crowd of people who frequent it (for the most part)
The crowd who frequent the random hack forums are the most embarassing bunch of worthless human beings to exist.
Anyways, I always wanted to share what I thought about cheating with people who feel so negatively about it, not to try and soften the blows against any idiot (such as the interviewee) who cheats and is super-obscenely-proud of it, but to share the thoughts of a guy who isn’t a complete social monster and can share some non-mongo insight on the subject. I don’t have any kind of solution for what game creators can do to stop cheating, because honestly I don’t think it will happen. But I do wish them luck.
Comment by usedtocheat — September 19, 2006 @ 1:20 am
Also, I’m actually really good with girls.
I did like the random attempts at relating cheating in a videogame to cheating on a girlfriend or doing poorly in a relationship, though.
Comment by rarity — September 19, 2006 @ 2:03 am
Lets all grab a rocket launcher.
they are going down.
Comment by CheatersSuckThePenis — September 19, 2006 @ 2:11 am
If you feel a game is getting boring, why not do what the rest of us do and move on to another game.
Ruining the experience for others makes you no better than a Muslim and that’s lower than a snakes belly.
Comment by Vomitron — September 19, 2006 @ 3:07 am
Schmuck and other cheats keep “whiffing” that Raid(tm), is being banned from XBL worth it. I feel pity for any 1 who gives M$ more money to play a game. Anyhoo, any cheaters out there will get theirs sooner or later.
Comment by Th3 ProphetMan — September 19, 2006 @ 3:49 am
“I will own anyone on the battlefield even without a mod, Believe It !”
Own anyone!? You wouldn’t hit the chicken in cs_italy with an AWP, why would you need cheats otherwise?
“Its not my fault that modders cheat.”
Oh i think it is, it sure isn’t the rest of the players’ fault.
“Modding is not an unfair advantage.”
WTF?
Comment by John Doe — September 19, 2006 @ 5:05 am
Why cheating ? Just to make people hungry
BTW CS is a piece of crap for childrens, why even care about cheating this crap sub-game?
Comment by Warrules — September 19, 2006 @ 5:19 am
Wow.. First of when you make it to Cal-Invite in Counter-Strike with out cheating i will believe the game got boring because you were so good at it.. Grow a Dick and Drop ur Balls.. Btw i realized most people over the age of 15 realized that cheating isnt much fun any more so i would guess this fag is prob 12 or so.. maybe 13 but then again most guys have drop their balls by then.. most not all…
Comment by -.- — September 19, 2006 @ 6:12 am
Yes I’m sure all the people who call the cheater a “no-lifer” are quite contradictory of themselves. YOU play the game as much as this guy, and if anything, he should be calling the non-cheaters no-lifers. I know this may not compute with your closed mind and bias opinions but let me explain it for you. Non-cheaters are constantly bitching and ctying about cheaters, calling them every word under the sun… Mature stance? Think again. You obviously have nothing else to do apart from cry about cheaters in your basement. Go socialise, go to fucking college for god sake, hell get a job! Just stop being little pussies and try to understand this is how the world works. You think its all sweets and roses? No. People will lie and cheat to get to the top; I’ll quote a saying: “Nice guys finish last” - says alot. BTW, games are about having fun, cheating is fun, so what gives you the god-given right to argue that? Oh and posting about how you are mentally “l33ter” than someone else and try to “own” someone on the internet just further proves my point.
I’ll apologise in advance for any spelling/grammar mistakes I may have made, as I know there are a few grammar nazis out there analysing every sentence I wrote.
This post was not directed at the non-cheaters who have an open view and do not jump to the steriotypical view of “r0fl z0mg lmao ch3aters are t3h fagz and th3y are teh n0-liferzzzzz l0l0lz0zloz0l!!11″
Have fun crying about cheaters.
<3
Comment by Everar — September 19, 2006 @ 6:40 am
I’d only be jealous if he had cheat codes that affected real life.
Comment by Tonhonis — September 19, 2006 @ 7:01 am
Why bother!? If they cheat, you must play harder, train and get better to kill them. That
Comment by Say — September 19, 2006 @ 7:37 am
so sad.. well he got a point with saying there could be a cheater on the other team.. but then again its so sad.
well i play css myself and nothing beats the feeling of owning ppl without cheats.. <3 noobs Hate cheaters
Grtz from Holland =D
Comment by SilentMugwump — September 19, 2006 @ 7:41 am
I am a big fan of Halo 2 online play, I never cheat (I honestly don’t know how and don’t have the time to find out how), and I don’t have a big gripe against “cheaters”. I have difficulty distinguishing when there is a cheater in the room, but I estimate that I may come accross one on every couple dozen sessions or so of Halo 2.
But my real gripe, and I believe you will all agree, is not about cheaters, but quitters! Those I come accross every OTHER game!! And those are the real game killers: any Team game type gets automatically forfeited when one or two of your teammates suddenly dissappear from the board!
Cheaters in games just make me laugh. I would probably be upset at them if I came accross cheaters more often, but I don’t. Quitters make my blood boil.
Comment by Phantom(Eilodon) — September 19, 2006 @ 8:04 am
I play Counter-strike regularly, along with other Half-Life mods and games. I see hackers at least once a day. It does get quite annoying. Where that hacker goes wrong is atleast in my case is that I’m not mad at him because he’s better than me, but rather that he uses an unfair advantage. Skill is one thing. I get pwnt fine with me, he’s just better. But if he’s hacking, then he is the scum of the earth. I can just see that guy going to jail because if he cheats at games, and finds ways around the system, why not cheat on his taxes, or scam people out of their money, one day he’s going to piss off the wrong person, be it a cop, or someone els of power. He might even anger some other hacker, and in turn get hacked out of his comp, out of his steam account, out of his identity, destroying everything on his computer. I for one would be happy to see him suffer.
Comment by Jehova — September 19, 2006 @ 8:31 am
I don’t get how you can say “Well, I found this dips**t cheater, who possibly repeated a cuple of grades, and since he’s a complete tit everyone else who is cheating must be too.”
Me myself have never cheated while playing a game online. Out there I think it’s important to see what I and my co-gamers are made of. What I do otherwise is up to me, and is not to be bitched on by anyone. The point I’m trying to make is that there are probably college student, or equivalent, like myself, who have an atleast decent level of education who cheat their collective asses off whenever they can. Sure they are somewhere between tele-marketers and the people who come to your door trying to convince you that their religion is the one and only on the “worthiness-to-live”-scale.
Does it make them bottomfeeding scum? Yes, absolutly. Does this make them retarded or in some other fashion mentally deficient? In a sense yes, but no, not really.
Anyone who is fed up with constantly being whipped, although claiming otherwise, is but a few clicks away from being able to cheat. And unfotunatly some will.
As a footnote: some of the conlclusions made by people answering this blog is for a lack of a better word appalling. To think that supposedly _sane_ people (Gooseman for instance and exemplified) would think to see a connection between cheating and bringing a gun to school is to me so far beyond disturbing that I can’t find words to describe it. But on the other hand, I’m not american. Where I’m from we don’t have guns, or more importantly ammunition, readily available at the local supermarket (as protrayed in Bowling for Columbine).
Just stop with the dr. Phil routine and think for change. Bad people do bad things. Cheaters aren’t necessarily bad people.
Please excuse grammatical or spelling errors. English is not my native language.
Comment by Peposa in Brasil — September 19, 2006 @ 8:57 am
That it is the typical case of a face frustrated, with psychological problems. He should have the small chick, by that is frustrated, normally who uses cheat has complex of have the small stick
Comment by Stick Master — September 19, 2006 @ 10:23 am
WOOOOW !!!
I get it now…Everybody raving about that lame a** cheater (Loohooseher)that he has no GF is spending at least half a day playing OL, 1 hour of